Needles and haystacks and such.
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October 9th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Hey, what the hell… the dependent and independent variables are actually on the correct axes.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
This is perfect.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am
excellent…
important to remember the local minimum… not too much not too little
October 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
This is why I should have stopped learning things a long time ago.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home wine-making course and I forgot how to drive?
October 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
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October 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I would have made two lines. One for ‘data’ looking like log(x+1) and one for ‘information’ looking like 1/e^x.
With no data there is no confusion. There is nothing to be confused about. Initial date is very confusing. After a while the increase in confusion from more data becomes less significant, but still increases towards infinity.
With no information there is infinite confusion. More information always reduces confusion, asymptotically approaching an ideal state of zero confusion, but we always have more to learn.
My point is, more data may add confusion, but more information is never a bad thing.
October 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
er, that should be 1/(e^x - 1).
October 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
You need a dot labeled “the internet” at the far upper right hand corner of the paper.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
llewelly beat me to it.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Hey Jessica. Loved this one, and posted a link to it.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:20 am
So beautifully put, Jessica - and so true.
@Robert de Forest: Well, not necessarily; it depends vastly on the context.
Say, you want to solve a problem. Given no information, chances are you’ll be very confused; I don’t know about you, but me - it usually scares the hell out of me. With a proper amount of info, solving the problem becomes kind of easy. Then, when given even more information, I’d tend to get confused again: my first question would be: “Why on earth do they say it to me?”. The second one would be: “My perfect solution just wasn’t that perfect; back to square N - and the confusion.”
That based on more 30 years of computer programming, but, IMHO, very valid for all kinds of practical problems as well, speaking out of bitter experience.
And - based on 6 years of teaching programing - it’s almost more than true.
But, still, yours is a good shot anyway, thought- and discussion-provoking.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
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October 10th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
e.e. cummings - all ignorance toboggans into know
all ignorance toboggans into know
and trudges up to ignorance again:
but winter’s not forever,even snow
melts;and if spring should spoil the game,what then?
all history’s a winter sport or three:
but were it five,i’d still insist that all
history is too small for even me;
for me and you,exceedingly too small.
Swoop(shrill collective myth)into thy grave
merely to toil the scale to shrillerness
per every madge and mabel dick and dave
–tomorrow is our permanent address
and there they’ll scarcely find us(if they do,
we’ll move away still further:into now
October 10th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I think this would fit well under the “faith” label too, haha. (At least in my experience)
October 11th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Cool!
Neatly sums up my relationship with computers!
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October 12th, 2009 at 6:47 am
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October 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I would have agreed with Robert de Forest’s (Oct 9) analysis until my oldest child was > 25 yrs. After that there was *way* too much information.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
You should get a royalty for every use of this graphic that will appear in slide decks for the next 5 years.
Very clever.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:48 am
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October 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
A related chart looks upside down from this one; the X axis is labeled “Degree of Certainty” and the Y, “Probability of Being Right.”
October 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
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October 17th, 2009 at 9:41 am
“age of information an media”=∞confusion+∞information
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October 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
The famous ‘U’ curve, aka sophomore slump… the transition from attention to instinct.
Very nice.
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
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October 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
So…this is where the geeks hang out.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Can I get this on a shirt? A mug? A billboard? E-mail me if you add this to your store!!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 2:57 am
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October 29th, 2009 at 6:17 am
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October 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
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October 31st, 2009 at 1:00 am
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November 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
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November 13th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
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November 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Brilliant! Where would you put Twitter on that graph?
December 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am
How can a few informations confuse you?
December 9th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Gaa! TMI! TMI!
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April 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I’m planning to show this graph in my algebra class this week and see what the students think about it.
May 7th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Jessica,
May I have your permission to use this image in my email footer at work? I love this. Please email permission if granted.
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